My collaborations are very much related to what I learned from being in a band ages ago. Most of the time I am working with a group taking on different roles and see myself as the lead singer. I compose the songs and think of ways to create environments that amplify the experience for the audience who I want to completely immerse as a performer. BIRD SONG DIAMOND at the Large Space in Tsukuba was a whole different level — so many people were involved that it felt more like I was a conductor and it was a truly magnificent experience. Looking back, from the point when Chuck approached me to participate in his research on Mapping the Acoustic Network of Birds to five years later working with an amazing team from so many disciplines — I learned so much. Most of all, I understand the importance of LISTENING to our environment — from all different perspectives, with all our senses and extending out to the animal world.